by Michael Tymn
“The electronic voices received through ITC tell us that they originate ‘in another dimension beyond time, a world where the dead also live’,” Dr. Anabela Cardoso states in the Introduction of her latest book, Electronic Contact with the Dead: What do the Voices tell us? “My own contacts have been with voices that, overall, assert that they belong to the deceased … [they] have repeated time and again that they ‘are the dead speaking from another world’.”
Until I read Cardoso’s 2010 book, Electronic Voices: Contact with Another Dimension? I wasn’t overly impressed with the evidence for ITC (Instrumental Transcommunication), EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena) or DRV (Direct Radio Voices). In previously exploring the subject, all I had heard were some muffled or garbled “words” that required some imagination, sort of like looking for faces or figures in the clouds. However, Cardoso’s book offered much more than a few words here and there. There was actual dialogue taking place in her experiments, some involving philosophical discussions. Her latest book adds to the evidence (See review of the book on page 13).
Dr. Cardoso, who speaks five languages, is a highly-respected diplomat, having served as Consul-General for Portugal in a number of countries, including the United States, Spain and France, and as Portuguese Chargé d’Affaires in Japan and India. She is the founder and editor of the ITC Journal, which is published in English. I recently put some questions to her by e-mail.
Dr. Cardoso, what prompted your interest in this whole area of electronic voices and survival?
Two things – firstly, an enormous curiosity about life and death; secondly, grief – mine and the deep grief and despair of the friend who started experimenting with me. She had tried to commit suicide twice.
Would you mind briefly defining ITC, EVP, and DRV and explain how they differ? There seems to be much overlap and confusion as to how they are used.
ITC is a broad term that encompasses the whole range of electronic communications – computer texts, video images (also called transimages), fax communications, telephone calls, anomalous electronic voices and other electronically mediated contacts. In the scope of the voices it is normally used in relation to the DRV. The DRV emanate directly from the loudspeaker of a radio and allow for dialogues when we are able to understand what the voices say immediately. EVP are the voices that we cannot hear directly but become audible when we rewind the recording. They are normally much shorter and clearer but, naturally, do not allow for a dialogue because we cannot hear them directly.
The term Instrumental Transcommunication (ITC) was coined by Dr. Ernst Senkowski, professor of physics at the Technical University of Mainz, Germany in the 1980s when other types of electronic messages, namely images, computer and fax messages, started coming through. Until then and on account of Dr. Konstantin Raudive’s book, Breakthrough, the anomalous electronic voices were called Electronic Voice Phenomenon (EVP) or “Raudive voices.” Raudive’s book caused furore in Great Britain when it was published by Colin Smythe in 1971, and thousands of people started experimenting with the new method he described, apparently obtaining results; therefore, the term “Raudive voices.” But it was Friedrich Jürgenson, the Swedish painter and singer, who in reality pioneered the existence of these mysterious voices. Dr. Raudive got the information and methods to experiment from Jürgenson himself. Later, in their book, Phone Calls from the Dead, parapsychologists Scott Rogo and Raymond Bayless published the results of their investigations of still another type of ITC messages, the anomalous telephone calls. From then on, reports of anomalous messages transmitted via electronic means upsurged all over the world. Some results are truly exceptional, as is the case of Maggy and Jules Harsch-Fischbach in Luxembourg, of Adolf Homes in Germany and Marcello Bacci in Italy, while other reports publicized mostly through the Internet, are imprecise and even doubtful.
What do you say to skeptics who say that electronic
voices are no more than wishful thinking turning a
bunch of static into voices?
I say, of course, that they have never witnessed,
nor heard, and even less studied, any real anomalous
electronic voices. Furthermore, I say that they know
nothing about the literature. There are over one hundred
volumes published on this subject. They
should study them first and look at the evidence.
In your 2010 book, you mention a DRV
communication of over 2 1/2 hours, but you state
that most of it could not be understood. How much
could be understood and what exactly is the problem
in that regard?
The contact remained open for all that time but
not the voice speaking with me. Although very long,
it did not speak all that time. I have never heard of
an electronic voice speaking for such a long period
of time! The voices do not speak uninterruptedly.
They speak, stop for a while, speak again, in the
best-cases come back repeatedly, but they never
speak for such a long time.
Little could be understood of my September
1998 DRV. The voice was so loud that I had to lower
the microphone entry to a level much under the
normal microphone entry otherwise it would be
damaging to the ear. But it sounded as if spoken from
the inside of a metal box with the corresponding
deformation, and it was also truncated. It was as
if speech bits were missing. It was also very fast
(a common characteristic) and seemed glued all
together. I understood “[Rio do] Tempo” spoken in
a lower tone and by another voice, “Anabela”…”This
is what you asked for yesterday”…“It’s very difficult,
difficult”… “It’s for Cristina Arruda”…“It’s the
father, satisfaction” and other things that I cannot
recall. At the time I had a Brazilian researcher
staying with me; she had come purposely to watch
my experiments. Indeed, the day before I had asked
Carlos de Almeida (my main communicator at
the time) if they could speak for her the next day.
Interestingly, in most cases, the louder the DRV the
less understandable they are.
I remember that I cried and cried because
of not being able to understand the replies that
extraordinary masculine voice gave to my many
questions on some transcendental issues that interest
me deeply. I took the tapes to a specialized audio
shop and the sound technicians there could not
understand it, either. They said pieces of speech
were missing. I recall an anomalous computer text
conveyed via Adolf Homes, which stated that the
voices were transmitted from the next dimension in
packets of energy and that only around 40 percent
of the information sent by them reached our world
(I cannot be sure of the exact percentage but it was
in this order). Maybe this is what happened. I just
Are any of the messages so clear and distinct that
there is absolutely no question about them?
Some of the voices in the CD I published with
my first book are fully intelligible. Naturally, as
should be expected, the only condition is to be fluent
in the idiom.
What has been most evidential to you?
Perhaps the fact that the voices identified
themselves as the dead, in some cases with their
own names and called me by my own name and
my family pet name, “Bela,” and replied directly to
my questions. Also that Rio do Tempo identification
was clearly provided on many occasions. “We
speak from Rio do Tempo Station…”. “Zeitstrom”
(Timestream) was the name of the group (station)
that spoke both with the Harsch-Fischbach in Luxembourg
and Adolf Homes in Germany. Years ago,
before me, Carlos de Almeida had spoken clearly in
Portuguese with the Luxembourg operators identifying
the name of his group in “Zeitstrom Station”
as “Rio do Tempo” and telling his own name. His
message was addressed to a conference in Brazil
where Harsch-Fischbach were going to present their
You refer to group souls in your books. What exactly
are they as you understand them?
My communicators have spoken many times
about “our group” and have also explicitly said
“I go down to my group, I go to the soul,” as you
might have heard in my CD. Apart from the mention
of their group, they have told me, “You belong
to Rio do Tempo [the group],” and other remarks
I heard them say to each other which implied the
collaboration of less-expected beings such as, fish
and other animals, besides my own dogs that, obviously,
we would expect to be part of the group. They
mentioned the most varied beings in the context of
playing a part in their projects to accomplish the
communications with us. Consequently, my own
interpretation of the group-soul is very close to the
description Frederic Myers purportedly made of that
unit in The Road to Immortality through the automatic
writing of Geraldine Cummins. A huge group that
comprises minerals, plants, animals, humans, united
by affinities, interests, goals and, of course, love.
I suppose this group extends beyond our present
existence and could relate to many other unknown
Why isn’t it possible to get a number of distinguished
scientists to observe an ITC session with you and
for them to all agree that it is genuine?
I believe you mean orthodox scientists and
that is practically an impossibility because they
are not interested. Unorthodox scientists have
been present in some of my experiments. Professor
Uwe Hartmann and Professor Ernst Senkowski
from Germany, Professor David Fontana from the
UK, and Dr. Adrian Klein from Israel, were in my
house on innumerable occasions and took part in
many dozen experiments. They all agreed to the
genuineness of the voices I receive and published
about them. David Fontana spoke extensively of
my ITC experiments in his books, and Professor
Uwe Hartmann also published about them, took
measurements, etc. However, they were not
orthodox scientists and understood that the voices
do not happen on command; therefore, they stayed
at my house for rather lengthy periods of time. I
don’t know if or when the voices will occur, thus
I cannot say in advance if a session will yield
positive results. We have to wait and see. I very
much doubt that an orthodox scientist, particularly
a high level one, would stay at my house for a full
month, for instance, to see if the voices manifest!
And even if he did, they might not happen in that
period. Then what? But if you know of anyone
who is in that disposition, please recommend
them to come. However, let me clarify that to fully
validate the anomalous electronic voices, we need
a specialized scientist, not any scientist. We need an
electromagnetic physicist or engineer. Interestingly,
I met one of those in 1998 at the beginning of my
experiments. I will tell you briefly what happened.
When I started receiving the DRV, voices
happened at my house practically on a daily basis.
I and my colleagues were amazed and wanted all
possible confirmation of the anomalous quality of the
voices. The University of Vigo, where I live, is well
known for its engineering and telecommunications
faculty. I sent a pair of tapes (I used an analogue
recorder then as I still do today) to the acoustic
experts of the faculty to be analysed. They did not
know me and I did not know them. Not a clue about
the provenance of the voices on the tapes was given.
The whole thing was channelled through my office
at the Consulate General of Portugal. A few weeks
later, the experts came back to the officer who had
made the contact, and told him they were extremely
surprised because the tapes contained voices which
were not modulated in a usual way. They insisted
in finding out how the voices had been obtained
but the Consulate officer did not know; thus, he
conveyed their message to me and, a few days later,
I decided to invite these two academics for lunch
at my house. Their research area was (is) Theory of
the Signal and Communications and this is exactly the
area credentialed to evaluate the characteristics of
any recording. One of these academics is currently a
full professor at the same faculty of Vigo University.
When they came for lunch they still did not know
what the voices were. With great difficulty, I told
them about the likely provenance of the recorded
voices and immediately their faces showed such
stupefaction that I could not hold laughing! As a
matter of fact the situation was out of the ordinary,
to say the least – a high ranking diplomat telling
two orthodox scientists in a highly conservative
country that does not accept any discussion of these
issues, that she had recorded the voices of the dead!
Moreover, they had never heard of EVP. What an
To make a long story short – I informed them
that my communicators had told me they would
endeavour to speak at 8 p.m. of that same day, so
they should wait and see for themselves. But some
half an hour before the time, they suddenly got up,
apologized and said they had to leave immediately.
I insisted to no avail. Rio do Tempo did speak that
evening at 8 p.m. What a missed opportunity! It was
a real shame because to reliably assess the electronic
voices we need scientists of the pertinent field, i.e.,
physicists working in Theory of the Signal. This was
my first encounter with orthodox scientists in the
scope of the electronic voices. Later, I contacted a
few others but the moment I revealed my opinion
about the origin of the voices, they ended all contact
Another good example is the report on the
highly controlled experiments carried out for a
period of two years I published in NeuroQuantology
– “A Two-Year Investigation of the Allegedly
Anomalous Electronic Voices or EVP” (Cardoso,
2012, 2017). It announced that samples of the voices
would be sent to interested scientists and technicians.
Nobody applied for this free demonstration.
What do you see as the future for ITC?
ITC, the new method to attempt contact with
the next dimension of life announced by mediums
in different points of the globe at the beginning of
the last century (Cardoso, 2010), will play a still
more significant role in the future. If we ponder the
manifestations seemingly produced by those we call
the dead throughout human history, we easily verify
that their recurrent feature is to be in conformity with
the [human] epoch of their emergence. This attribute
is even more visible in ITC with its technological
connections, apart from the fact that the determinant
element is electricity, which is supposed to be a very
manageable energy for our communicators. Thus,
in my opinion ITC will develop hand-in-hand with
the new technologies that humans will devise in the
future. We just have to wait and see!