Report on an extraordinary ITC occurrence:

A visit with unsuspected results

Anabela Cardoso


I receive frequent questions about my work from people interested in ITC, and even requests from people I don’t know and have never met to pay me a visit and get acquainted with ITC practice. This has happened with people from all over the world, from the USA to Great Britain, from France to Germany, from Portugal and Spain, and other places.  If I feel there is true interest from their side in a field that I passionately love, I normally reply in the affirmative.

This time, a certain  Guillermo Campos from Seville asked to come and speak with me about ITC practice. As usual, I tried to spare him the trip and sent him all the information in Spanish I could think of. Nevertheless, he kept insisting in coming and I finally accepted, although feeling there was not much I could teach him personally that I had not already done on written particularly through the materials I had sent him.

I normally get a little worried because I think that the people who want to see me so insistently might expect a “miracle” and nothing of the sort is bound to happen… I feel particularly embarrassed if they aim at listening to the DRV live at my studio since I never know when this might occur and I know that more often than not they had an exhausting trip and are very likely to be deceived. To say the truth, on the whole I try to discourage people from coming.

The same thing happened with Guillermo but he would not give up so, in the end, I told him to come to Galicia where I currently live, and that we would talk.

Guillermo is a charming and intelligent young man, extremely interested in ITC. I very much liked his approach to the subject and tried to elucidate him as well as I could. We discussed all he was determined to find out, and I thought that it was a pity he lived far away because he would have been an excellent collaborator and we would develop our own experiments in a good direction and the results could be positive if we worked together.

We said goodbye at the end of the day and I asked him to keep me informed of his own experiments. He had insisted in tuning his radios to the same frequencies I use and I explained, as I normally do, that the frequencies are not so important (as my communicators tell me) while a strong, syncopated, beaten type of noise seems to be desirable for the DRV (Direct Radio Voices) but that he should aim at the EVPs to start with, and those experiments require softer background noise, etc. Everybody we know of and had excellent results started by the EVP work, I told him.

To my great surprise, a couple of days later I received a message from Guillermo saying that he had recorded the DRV! I was very happy but also staggered because the DRV are rather unusual. Thus, to be absolutely sure about what was happening, I asked him to send me a sample of his audio files, which he did immediately.

I went through the files he sent me with my audio editing software and verified that not only was he receiving the DRV but these were very special DRV because they came from Rio do Tempo Station. They spoke in Portuguese and uttered sentences that I very well know from my own ITC tests, such as “Somos os Mortos” (We are the Dead), “Sou o Pai”, (I am the father), “Somos nós” (It’s us), a sentence they repeat many times, “Voltamos na Estação” (We came back to /in the Station), even “É o Luis” (Luis is my deceased brother’s name), “É o tio Marcelino” (It’s uncle Marcelino), “É o Só” (It is Só), and so on.  Só was the little dog I found abandoned, a walking skeleton zigzagging the roads under a blazing sun in the south of Portugal. I treated and sheltered him and he recovered fully. I told Só’s story in my book Electronic Voices, Contact with Another Dimension? (Cardoso, 2010). He has been a constant presence in my DRV until the present.

Guillermo’s voices also voiced “Rio do Tempo” several times and on one occasion, with the accent typical of Alentejo, the south of Portugal where I was born, they uttered: “te(u) amor(e), é o Surya” (Your love, it’s Surya). Indeed I often refer to my dog Surya as ‘my love’ when I ask my communicators for news of my Doberman dogs.

Guillermo’s June 2 recording finished with a beautiful sentence: “O Rio é mais grande do que parece!” (the river is larger than it seems).

I was puzzled and did not know what to think. The voices spoke in Portuguese and seemed to be addressing me but this was at Guillermo’s home in Seville! It is true that similar occurrences have happened in the past, e.g. between the Harsch-Fischbach in Luxembourg and Adolf Homes in Germany, as reported by Professor Ernst Senkowski extensively (Senkowski, 1995) but they are rare events which I never expected would happen to us.

More than ten years ago two Portuguese ladies who had come to visit me to find out about ITC, experienced a similar situation but the voices they received, although DRV also, were less conspicuous. They were, nevertheless, coming from Rio do Tempo Station, too.

Guillermo kept sending me his recordings that I listened to and the pattern kept repeating itself. “Nós somos do Rio do Tempo” (We are from Rio do Tempo) was clearly uttered by the electronic voices, which replied to Guillermo when he asked them in Spanish if they could hear him: “Nós escuchamos sim” (Yes we can hear, yes), half in Portuguese and half in Castilian.  I must add that these voices are not always comprehensible, although they sometimes utter a few words or a sentence that is directly understandable. The DRV Guillermo recorded so far, are robotic and extremely metallic sounding and, on the whole, rather low. However, they have identified themselves as coming from Rio do Tempo Station and the characteristics I quoted are a feature of most of the DRV. Also, the electronic voices vary greatly in quality and amplitude with the same operator. This happens with my own voices all the time. As Rio do Tempo has told me “Contacto bom é difícil!” (Good contact is difficult!).

Guillermo does not speak Portuguese and has great difficulty in understanding the language, which he is not familiarised with.

In subsequent days Guillermo continued receiving the DRV and I asked Rio do Tempo what was going on because I wanted to be sure that they knew they were speaking at Guillermo’s and not at my house. They replied me that they knew and that they were “working” [practising to be able to speak universally], actually their main goal, as they have told me umpteen times: “Falamos p’ro mundo, em todos os lugares, a abertura do caminho!” (We speak to the world, everywhere, the opening of the road!)

A couple of days later the voices were uttering a few words in Spanish and sometimes replied to Guillermo’s questions and comments in his native language, although more frequently in half Portuguese and in half Spanish Castilian.

What are we to make of this extraordinary happening? In my opinion we may ponder several possibilities:

  1. The communicators are doing what Rio do Tempo told me they were doing – “practising to be able to speak to everybody in our world interested in contacting theirs”. One of the words they pronounced during the first DRVs Guillermo recorded was “Funciona” (It works). This seems to corroborate the hypothesis I offered, i.e. that ITC practice, in this case the Direct Radio Voices, works at Guillermo’s house. Apparently it does not work everywhere. In his case the young Spaniard used the same frequencies I tune my radios to- all reserved exclusively for State use – and SW radios similar to my own.  In the case of the Portuguese ladies the frequencies were different.
  2. It is odd that the communicators speak with Guillermo in Portuguese but we should remember that they seem to belong to my group in the next world, the Portuguese group at Rio do Tempo Station. I recall once, when Professor David Fontana started speaking to the communicators in English and the first masculine voice that came through said “Nós falamos português” (We speak Portuguese) but continued in English.
  3. The Group-Soul has been emphasized by my and other ITC communicators who have identified themselves as deceased humans from another dimension. Is it that Guillermo Campos, I and the deceased humans that speak with both of us are from the same Group-Soul? It is very possible.  Rio do Tempo has told me on several occasions “És do Tempo” (You belong to [Rio] Tempo).

In my opinion the communicators are doing what they said they are doing – practising with the formation of the voices in order to be able, one day, to speak to everybody in our world interested in their world. They have told me so for the last several years. Why should we doubt them? I know that his voices told Friedrich Jürgenson similar things, and Dr Konstantin Raudive announced the same at the Harsch-Fischbach’s in Luxembourg. I discussed this point with Prof Ernst Senkowski on several occasions and, as Dr Senkowski remarked, “That time does not seem to come!”. This appears to be true, of course, but should we not remind ourselves that our dear communicators live in a timeless dimension? Time is important for us, not for them. So, let’s hope and keep working, dear readers interested in ITC.

Guillermo Campos Magencio very kindly wrote an excellent report in Spanish on the ITC events he witnessed and which I described above from my perspective. I recommend my readers to use Google translator to go over it below and understand better what is going on.  I believe these happenings might become important.


Senkowski,E.(1995). Instrumentelle Transkommunikation. Frankfurt/Main: R.G. Fischer


Cardoso, A.  Electronic Voices, Contact with Another Dimension? UK: Ropley, Hants,

John Hunt/O-Books.

Cardoso, A. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc06hB5-hLeM_eS_mnIsgrg



Mi experimentación en TCI

Guillermo Campos Magencio


Siempre me ha gustado el mundo de lo paranormal. Dicen que no hay mejor manera de afrontar tus miedos que enfrentarse a ellos. Mi familia siempre me recuerda que desde bien pequeño y hasta los 12 años necesitaba dormir con una luz encendida o junto a mi hermano en su cama, y por supuesto en el lado de la cama junto a la pared, por si a algún monstruo se le ocurriera venir a mi encuentro le costara un poco más llevarme con él.

Una muerte a edad temprana  de un miembro muy querido de mi familia, un primo hermano llamado Jorge, me hizo desarrollar una hipocondría que me ha durado tantos años que creo que siempre llevaré conmigo. Fue mi primer encuentro con la muerte cara a cara y pude darme cuenta de que ya no era cosa de película o de trama de novela. La muerte se mostraba ante mí como una amenaza constante, que no distingue de edad, religión o sexo. Da igual que intentes resistirte a ella, que pienses que nunca puede alcanzarte…..cuando llega el momento solo puedes resignarte.

A partir de este momento, con 16 años de edad, me convierto en un devorador de contenido de misterio y mundos ocultos. Leo muchas novelas de Stephen King  y pocos documentales y películas de terror se me resisten, para descontento de mis queridos padres que siempre me recomiendan ver otro género más instructivo y enriquecedor.

Hasta este momento mi infancia y juventud trascurre como la de cualquier otra persona normal. Una familia unida, un trabajo estable y con muchas ilusiones y proyectos de futuro….hasta que llegan los dos peores días de mi vida.

Primero la pérdida de mi tan esperada sobrina, Emma; y poco después mi amado padre fallece un 2 de Agosto del 2016, después de una injusta y repentina enfermedad. Era un pilar tan importante en mi vida que no dejaba de preguntarme de que forma iba a poder recuperarme de este golpe tan bajo e injusto.

Recuerdo a mi hermana leyendo un escrito que había realizado en el que comentaba, aunque no con estas mismas palabras seguramente, que mi padre, totalmente consciente de que sus días estaban contados, le comentó que le gustaría pensar que habría algún tipo de conexión entre donde él iba a ir y nosotros, su familia, que era el motor de su vida y por la que el siempre se desvivía.

Yo no supe de esta conversación hasta no habérsela escuchado a mi hermana, pero cuando lo hice, alguna especie de necesidad y obsesión comenzó a forjarse dentro de mí y se convirtió en el objetivo primordial de mi vida… ¿Existe o alguna vez ha existido ese tipo de conexión? ¿Hay algo después de nuestra vida terrenal?

Lo que sí que tenía muy claro es que, conociendo a mi padre, de haberla , haría todo lo posible para que se estableciera, y claro, en toda comunicación, tiene que haber un emisor y un receptor…¡ese tenía que ser yo!

Comencé entonces una búsqueda por internet , ya que me asustaba la idea de comenzar algo que muchos tachan de peligroso y sobre todo si no se dispone de la información necesaria y tampoco del estado anímico requerido para este tipo de actuaciones.

Contacté con varios grupos de investigación paranormal en Sevilla, donde resido, sin tener mucho éxito….algunos no me contestaban, otros amablemente me rechazaron y finalmente un grupo de nueva creación aceptó mi incorporación.

Después de meses de infructuosas investigaciones, pasando noches frías en lugares muy peligrosos por su estado en ruina me di cuenta de que ese no era el camino para el objetivo que me había marcado. Las investigaciones se convirtieron en hacer directos para redes sociales en las que se presumía de un equipo muy llamativo pero de dudosa efectividad y en la exageración e invención de algunos fenómenos.

Poco después abandoné este grupo convencido de que cada día que permaneciera en él sería un día perdido en cumplir mi cometido.

Fue más o menos a principios de este año 2019 cuando navegando por YouTube encontré un documental que cambiaría mi forma de entender el contacto con el “otro plano” de existencia.  El documental trataba del transcomunicador instrumental italiano Marcello Bacci y sus voces directas de radio. ¿Cómo es posible que alguien pueda establecer el contacto que tanto he buscado con una simple y antigua radio de válvulas?

Después de este gran y sorprendente descubrimiento vinieron muchos otros documentales, conferencias y libros, en los que aprendí que ese tipo de comunicaciones eran extraordinarias y mucho menos comunes que unas simples psicofonías o evps que miles de personas recogen a diario, pero…..¿por qué no podría intentarlo yo?

Una noche tuve la suerte de visualizar una conferencia de una transcomunicadora de la que ya había tenido referencias anteriormente, la doctora Anabela Cardoso y después de esto no pude resistirme a adquirir sus dos grandes libros que se convertirían en la guía de trabajo en mis futuras experimentaciones.

Comencé entonces sobre el mes de Marzo a imitar el trabajo de Anabela para ver si pudiese obtener algún resultado. Me compré 5 radios multibanda de las que hablaré más tarde y sintonizadas en las frecuencias que ella utilizaba comencé a lanzar preguntas al aire sin mucho éxito al principio más allá de la aparición de alguna psicofonía o ruidos extraños.

Todas las noches más o menos sobre la misma hora, si el trabajo me lo permitía, continué mis experimentos de la misma forma y metodología que había leído en los libros.

Un poco decepcionado por los resultados negativos me decido a dar un paso a sabiendas de mi osadía y pensando en no recibir respuesta alguna….otro pensamiento poco acertado por mi parte. Contacto con Anabela a través de Facebook y cuán grata es mi sorpresa cuando me responde con la amabilidad que siempre le caracteriza.

Comienza entonces una comunicación vía email cuyo resultado es la invitación a poder conocerle en persona , lo que me colma de ilusión y motivación aunque todos los resultados sean hasta el momento negativos por mi parte.

El día 24 de Mayo de 2019 aterrizo en La Coruña, y después de recoger el coche de alquiler que tenía contratado recorro nervioso la hora y media de trayecto que me separan de conocer a mi mentora e inspiradora de mis experimentaciones.

Al llegar a mi destino me encuentro rodeado de un magnífico y bello paisaje, y en medio del mismo, la hermosa residencia de Anabela. Desciendo del coche y soy recibido por una señora que amablemente me invita a entrar y a esperar en el salón.

Lo que a continuación me sucede solamente puede ser descrito como una experiencia única e inolvidable. Mientras espero sentado en el salón siento sensaciones que nunca antes había experimentado al entrar en ningún lugar…bondad, energía, espiritualidad, amor, compasión….mientras comienzo a darme cuenta de todo esto escucho su voz que se transporta escaleras abajo e incluso a través del techo “Guillermo, perdóname….ya bajo”. Nervioso, me incorporo y soy recibido con una sincera sonrisa y la mayor hospitalidad que nadie pueda esperar.

Luego las horas se me hacen minutos. Le comento a Anabela como he llegado a adentrarme en el maravilloso mundo de la transcomunicación, las actuaciones que estoy llevando a cabo en el laboratorio, le entrego mis libros para que me los dedique y tengo el honor de entrar en su laboratorio y descubrir por mí mismo la forma en la que ella trabaja. Recibo muchos consejos acerca de la metodología a usar, libros que leer y me enriquezco escuchando sus éxitos y anécdotas de tantos años de estudio y experimentación.

Casi ya a las nueve de la noche, y sin querer robarle más tiempo abandono tan idílico paisaje y me dirijo de vuelta a La Coruña para pasar la noche en un Hotel cerca del aeropuerto donde tendría que coger el vuelo que al día siguiente me llevaría de regreso a casa. Ya en la habitación, abrumado por la experiencia vivida  y algo cansado, saco la más pequeña radio multibanda, mi grabadora y me dispongo a realizar una experimentación en la misma habitación del hotel. Después de diez minutos de preguntas y esperas en silencio, con el ruido blanco  que emitía la radio en una frecuencia de onda corta, me tumbo en la cama con mi grabadora y unos auriculares para poder escuchar los posibles resultados. Para mi sorpresa y casi después de cada pregunta parecía haberse recogido una o varias EVPs. Nunca antes había obtenido tantas y tan continuas. ¡Algo estaba cambiando!

Al día siguiente, el 27 de Mayo de 2019,  ya de regreso a mi casa entro nervioso a mi pequeño laboratorio y comienzo a preparar mis radios y a encenderlas según la secuencia habitual……y lo extraordinario sucede.  No me había dado tiempo ni siquiera a conectar mi grabadora cuando mis radios comienzan a comportarse de forma extraña desapareciendo  el ruido blanco de todas ellas. Después de unos segundos y mientras las miraba extrañado parece que de una de ellas aparece una voz directa que me indica algo que no logro entender.  Lo extraño es que llevaba tiempo experimentando con esas radios y en las mismas frecuencias y nunca antes había escuchado nada salvo el ruido blanco de las mismas.

A partir de este momento, y durante más días comienzo a recibir más comunicaciones de mis “voces amigas”. Al principio son de baja calidad, robóticas y de difícil interpretación. Gracias a la doctora Anabela Cardoso, que me ayuda en la edición e interpretación de las voces, podemos confirmar que se trata de la estación “Río do tempo”. La mayoría de las palabras son en lenguaje portugués, aunque alguna que otra se encuentra en castellano. “somos nosotros”, “tu padre”, “Bela”, “muertos”, “Río do tempo” son las voces que parecen repetirse con mayor frecuencia. También “Funciona” e incluso mi propio nombre parece escucharse a través de los altavoces de mis radios. Muchos de mis mensajes parece que son enviados a la propia Anabela Cardoso, lo que nos asombra en sobremanera. Las últimas voces que he recibido en el momento en que escribo este documento  parecen ser de mejor calidad y comprensión.

También añadir que en un par de experimentaciones han ocurrido sucesos extraños, como el lanzamiento de una de mis radios hacia el otro extremo del laboratorio o la apertura de la puerta del mismo con movimiento de picaporte incluido.




Mi laboratorio es muy sencillo. Se trata de la habitación más pequeña de mi domicilio y con orientación norte. Se encuentra en la zona más tranquila de la casa y, al tratarse de una casa de una sola altura y unifamiliar dispongo de la ventaja de estar libre de contaminaciones acústicas.

En una mesa escritorio es donde coloco las 4 radios que utilizo para mis experimentaciones, tres posicionadas lado a lado y otra detrás de todas ellas sintonizada en la frecuencia Jürgenson. Utilizo una linterna con luz ultravioleta como luz ambiente, ya que leí que puede mejorar las comunicaciones.

En el suelo es donde me sitúo yo, encima de una manta y unos cojines para estar en posición más relajada.

La grabadora la tengo conectada en un trípode y colocada a un metro y medio más o menos de las radios en línea recta.


Lo primero que hago es apuntar en mi libreta los datos básicos de cada experimentación como son la fecha, hora, fase lunar, climatología, estado anímico y cualquier otro dato de interés. Normalmente y según me aconsejó Anabela, suelo comenzar a la misma hora, sobre las 22.30, ya que parece ser que seguir una rutina en las comunicaciones es beneficioso para el resultado en las mismas.

Seguidamente extiendo las antenas de todas las radios y voy encendiéndolas una por una siempre en el mismo orden. Primero la radio que se encuentra detrás de las otras y seguidamente las otras tres de derecha a izquierda. Después pongo mi grabadora a grabar.

Comienzo solicitando la ayuda y protección de Río do Tempo y de mi padre para el establecimiento de la comunicación. Comienzo a realizar las preguntas y doy intervalos de máximo dos minutos y mínimo de uno entre una pregunta y otra.

La experimentación la termino agradeciendo a mis “voces amigas” por el esfuerzo y trabajo en la realización del intento o consumación de la comunicación.

Radios utilizadas y frecuencias:

Indicar que las frecuencias que utilizo desde el comienzo son las mismas que utiliza Anabela Cardoso. Como indica un estudio realizado que puede buscarse por internet, se tratan todas de frecuencias reservadas a uso exclusivo del Estado y en la que está prohibido cualquier tipo de emisión.

  • Radio Etón S350DL : sintonizada en frecuencia de onda corta 13250 kHz. En esta radio y frecuencia fue donde recibí mi primera comunicación y la única que he vuelto a recibir por ella.
  • Radio Grundig Satellit 2000 : sintonizada en frecuencia de onda media (AM) 1460 kHz, también denominada frecuencia Jürgenson.
  • Radio Radiwow R 108 : Sintonizada en la frecuencia de onda corta 22545 kHz
  • Radio Sony ICF-SW7600GR : Sintonizada en la frecuencia 11178 kHz. El resto de comunicaciones las he recibido en esta radio y frecuencia. Parece ser la preferida por mis voces, y casualmente por mí, al ser el único modelo que utilizo que es también utilizada por Anabela Cardoso.




Report on an extraordinary ITC occurrence: A visit with unsuspected results


Analysis of Anomalous Audio and Video-Recordings*

Prof. Dr. Ernst Senkowski                                                                              

 To prevent possible misunderstanding I shall circumscribe a few customary terms which in connection with the phenomena in question can only be applied in a restricted sense. Experimenters in EVP like to speak about their “research”, but with very few exceptions they have no professional background, they are neither able nor interested in scientific work and in
experiments following established rules. Even a scientist finds such research hard or impossible to execute. His situation is like hunting shy animals by using traps which hopefully snap in the right moment. Another parallel could be a man looking for meteorites – the existence of which were  denied by eminent scientists not so long ago. What can this “experimenter” do?

As there is always finite probability for a meteorite falling down just before his nose so please: sit down and wait or rummage around in the open air and perhaps stumble over it.
EVP and related phenomena happen spontaneously, at best one can try to provoke them. Exact predictions are not possible and their reproducibility is rather poor. My own work can best be termed as field-research, that is observing the conditions, collecting the material and trying to find common characteristics. In most instances the term “operator” is more correct than “experimenter”. All these difficulties are well known in Parapsychology. Together with
cultural prejudice they apparently blocked any official research in our field until today.


SL 1

Let me start by sketching a few early steps of a development the roots of which can be traced back at least to the beginning of our century. In 1952 two Roman Catholic scientists in the University of Milano, Italy, were engaged in analysing music from a steel-wire-type recorder. Listening to the tape they were surprised to hear voices of unknown origin.
In our country similar spontaneous observations were published in 1959 by Bayless in the Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research. A short time later Friedrich Jürgenson in Sweden triggered the attempts of what finally amounted to a few thousand amateurs in a dozen countries by stating his conviction that the voices he observed were those of deceased humans.
With some nostalgia we read in Peter Bander’s “Voices from The Tapes” about another pioneer of EVP, Konstantin Raudive, who on March 27, 1971, was taken by David Ellis to Enfield for an experiment in the radio-frequency-screened laboratory of Belling and Lee Ltd.  Mr. Ralph Lovelock, the electronics engineer and physicist, was there and Mr. Peter Hale  who was one of the five leading experts in electronic screen suppression in the West and
certainly Britain’s leading expert. After the experiment which had been significant to the experts Mr. Hale wrote a letter to Peter Bander from which he allowed him to quote to the
press: “From the results we obtained last Friday, something is happening which I cannot explain in normal physical terms”. Several months later Hale confirmed this opinion and added in a letter to Ellis: “..I feel we have something which is not associated with normal radio transmission”. Whereupon Ellis declared that the experiment was not convincing because the microphone in use could have picked up normal acoustic sound.

As far as I know, the well known German parapsychologist Hans Bender, former Professor at the University of Freiburg, was the only official academic who for a short period observed Jürgenson’s work. He found it interesting enough to publish the results in the “Zeitschrift fuer Parapsychologie und Grenzgebiete der Psychologie” in 1970. Bender wrote that the analysis by means of the visible-speech-method essentially contributed to objectify the audible signals and rendered the paranormal origin of some voice phenomena very probable.
My own interest in the voice phenomenon resulted from a controversial TV-discussion into which I had stepped accidentally in 1974. As an experimental physicist I wondered whether voices from No-Where could indeed appear on magnetic tapes. After several opposing statements I decided to find out by my own tests. Unexpectedly I convinced myself of these
anomalies and was able to establish their characteristics during 1977. My publication in Bender’s “Zeitschrift” in 1979 must be considered as an independent confirmation of earlier results which at that time were completely unknown to me. In 1982 I practically stopped my technical attempts to improve the quantity and quality of voices on tapes. The results showed irregularities which I was unable to get rid of. I continued to collect material from operators in
different languages (German, English, Italian and French) and established personal contacts with prominent operators.
One of the first of these was Klaus Schreiber from Aachen, Germany, who I met in 1985, a
very modest and simple man, who without technical background invented the elsewhere well-known electronic-optical feedback-system. In the video-taped fluctuations he detected single frames showing images of persons.
Together with a small group of interested people and Vladimir Delavre, M.D., we founded a small “Society for Psychobiophysics” in 1990 to publish a semi-annual journal. We are critically observing the development in the field, we try to encompass it in a wider frame and to elaborate some understanding of the underlying processes.
The extraordinary audio-visual material which has been documented during the last decades can be analysed under quite different aspects. Careful observation seems to show that the anomalous behaviour of electronic devices is connected with the operators. If this is true we are confronted with psychophysical processes or man and machine interactions, and we cannot expect a deeper insight by treating only the technical side of the problem.
One of the most frequent features of the extraordinary voices and images is their poor signal-to-noise ratio (S:N) leading to considerable difficulties of decoding. It is crucial to understand the general reaction of a receiving system to a disturbed signal.
In a simplified model the receiver has a noisy internal structure N (REC), and an input signal S (IN), accompanied by noise N (IN), that are somehow mixed in the receiver with N (REC).  The final output may differ considerably from the original input depending on S (IN) / N (IN) and the properties of the receiver. There are a number of often non-linear parameters influencing the process which leads from the reception of an unknown signal to its final
interpretation or understanding. These parameters have been extensively researched in psycho-acoustics and psycho-linguistics.

Table 1
[ S (IN)  +  N (IN) ]  +  N (REC)   =>
[ S (IN)  +  N (IN)    +  N (REC) ]
(OUT)    equals not     (IN)

If in our case the “receiver” is a complex human being listening to a tape with noisy and/or distorted audible or visible signals it is inevitable that conscious and unconscious personal convictions, expectations, focus of attention, experience and practice co-determine the interpretation. EVP operators using a sensitive microphone together with a normal recording
system find that most signals are either below or just equal to a rather homogenous background noise. Signals well above noise level are rare exceptions. If an acoustic background is added (for instance a mix of foreign languages from a radio-receiver) – thereby trying to enhance the probability and quality of the expected paranormals – then these are overlaid or interspersed by the normal transmissions.
SL 2, 3, 4  show how the interpretability of signals is dependent upon the signal to noise ratio S/N in three ranges.
For S/N < 1, fantasy, illusion and even hallucination are involved.
The personal interpretation is purely subjective, in some sense not real and cannot be confirmed by other listeners.     SL2
For S/N that is around 1 we enter a “grey area” with uncertain boundaries in which a limited inter subjective agreement on the interpretation is possible. And the voices can be considered as partly real. In both cases wishful thinking and expectation play an important role. SL3
With high S/N values we are able to confirm unequivocally the objective reality of the signals by independent subjective control and technical analysis.   SL4
A vast amount of research for telecommunication applications led to engineering standards in which the intelligibility of voices and the reliability of voice communication under simple disturbed conditions has been defined as a function of S/N values. Because it is impossible to
predetermine the countless types and combinations of disturbing noise such standards could not be established to cover all practical cases. One has to rely on the sensitivity and selectivity of the trained human psycho-acoustic system.
It may be asked whether there are genuine paranormal voices at all. Indeed many sceptics like to deny their existence overestimating the left side of our table. Our own positive answer is based on a sufficient number of voices to the right.
A message coming loud and clear from the loud-speaker of my short wave receiver was immediately understood by all four persons in the room and taped via a microphone reel-to-reel-recorder combination. It happened on the late evening of Feb. 1, 1977. Three sentences referred to a special situation of a related family living in Berlin. The correlated events were
confirmed in a telephone call during the following day.
Even an English speaking person should be able to understand this voice crying out: “Hier  ist Berlin”. The oscilloscope clearly showed the signal well above the noise level.   SL5    SL6
Dear readers – I guess some of you find this hard to swallow – but sorry – I see no way out: one single white crow proves that not all crows are black and we are sure about many more white crows! It is unjustified to devalue them as artefacts or anecdotal, so we feel entitled to continue by listing a few characteristics of these voices which were detected in similar or identical forms by different operators: Preferably faster than normal speech, in a few instances extremely slow, hollow sounding, echoing or jittering, volume and intonation follow unusual
time functions f. i. starting high and falling off, or starting low and going high, non glottal speech, characterised by missing fundamental frequencies has been determined by an official analysis in the University of Torino, Italy. Many operators documented rhythmic or robotic non-human sounding speech. Altered and shortened grammar and syntax, outmoded terms and neologisms result in a sort of compressed speech. Polyglot phrases have been observed. The meaning of metaphorical and symbolic contents often remains difficult to establish.
Besides a great number of corresponding subjective reports some peculiarities of the voices have been analysed statistically. A first project was carried out by Dr. Carlo Trajna in Firenze, Italy. On a basis of 24.000 words from four different operators he determined the relative
frequency of extraordinary passages depending on their length counted in syllables.  SL7  The resulting distribution curve shows a distinct maximum around five syllables per passage. My own evaluation, from taped material received by other operators and from my own results, agreed with Trajna’s findings. Another independent confirmation came from Alexander McRae, Scotland, a former NASA communications specialist, who determined a respective maximum around 1,6 sec/passage in good agreement with 5 syllables. McRae considered this
time-“packaging” a clear sign of the unusual nature of such passages and experimentally rejected the hypothesis that complete structures of this kind could result as stochastic cut-outs from normal sentences.
To describe the fact that the voices prefer short words with few syllables Trajna invented the term “Psychophonic Style”. He compared 24.000 words taken from normal writings of four authors with the just mentioned 24.000 words. The reduction in the number of syllables per word amounted to 20%. A value which was confirmed by myself. Trajna moreover stated that the respective differences between the normal writings of the four authors were greater than those between their voice material. The effects are apparently independent from the special language. They were at least observed in Italian, German and English.
It is interesting to note that the number of syllables per word increased during the 1980s. In the material which I compared it reached a final value of two for normal German speech.
In my introduction I mentioned that a few thousand people are trying to tape voices. Their experiences in total – even if interpretations remain doubtful in many cases – suggest that EVP is a common low-level phenomenon.
Under the aspect of communication with whom-so-ever the voice phenomena of this type are quite unsatisfactory. Although there are many convincing examples of voices reasonably answering a question of the operator the whole process remains clumsy and time-consuming. Most taping procedures start by recording a few minutes, followed by listening to the record in replay, trying to detect and possibly understand a presumably paranormal passage and
then eventually asking a new question without finding another answer. From the very beginning of my tests it was clear that only a system suitable for fluent two-way communication would overcome these difficulties. The first step in this development required directly understandable voices perhaps coming from the loudspeaker of a radio-receiver or a special system. The event “Hier ist Berlin” showed the possibility.
At that time I did not know that a group of operators in Grosseto, Italy, headed by Marcello Bacci, had already effected the two-way contacts I had dreamt of only many years later. In 1986 I visited them and took active part in this type of two-way communication. A female sounding voice answered my questions in German, a language unknown to the Italian operators. It was Dr. Trajna who coined the term “Direct Electroacoustic Voices”. Meanwhile I met a handful of successful operators in four countries and witnessed the activities of four of them.

I am used to objections such as ‘Isn’t this too small a basis for serious consideration?’   Perhaps it is.  But the critics are like town people used to see little sparrows. Then a traveller reports that with good luck he observed the impressive condor spreading his wings 10 feet wide high up in the South American Mountains.

But the people don’t believe him, at the same time they shrink from leaving their town with the sparrows and are afraid to climb up and stay long enough to see the condor with their own eyes. Excuse my silly sounding question: Who of you has ever seen a flying fish? There are many facts supporting the genuineness of these anomalies and some remarkable properties of the direct electro acoustic voices that have been evaluated.
During several one way messages the speech is considerably accelerated.  SL 8  We have now three examples from two operators. In spite of rather great differences in the basic material we observe about 50 % more syllables per unit time at the end of the message as compared with the beginning. Paranormal speech can be realized in form of single clearly spaced syllables apparently formed with considerable effort.   SL9  SL10

Some messages are accompanied by complex tone signals of unknown origin and unknown significance. Their structures are continuously fluctuating in phases, frequencies and amplitudes. Often a lower frequency component is superposed by oscillations of higher frequencies.  SL11   SL12
I should like to add a few remarks on the paranormal images. I briefly mentioned Klaus Schreiber who introduced the feed-back loop and searched for single extra images frame by frame. Many of these images were of bad quality, blurred, with low contrast and like many voices on tape wide open to subjective interpretations. In such noisy example it is hopeless to decide between free interpretation of chaotic forms and an eventually paranormal
image. Other pictures are outstanding. There is for instance an example which can be
compared with a photograph of Dr. Alois Wiesinger, a former Austrian abbot, unknown to Schreiber at the time of manifestation.   SL13
Several operators in Italy, Switzerland, England, France, Germany, Spain and last but not least in the USA used or still use the feed-back method with more or less comparable results.
The general development of paranormal images can be paralleled with that of voices. Probably the first direct faces on TV-receivers tuned to a free channel were witnessed in Italy already in 1978. They had been predicted by communications on tapes and showed deceased relations of the operators so that normal terrestrial origin must be excluded. The number of operators who have received images directly on TV is still small compared to direct electro acoustic voices. Only three of them are personally known to me. With one or two exceptions the images are in black and white, mostly standing still for a few tenths of a second up to one minute in duration and sometimes accompanied by direct voices. In a small number of cases the paranormal image collapses after a few black frames – reminding one of the blackies of Ted Serios.
Before closing let me touch on two more points: the first concerns the role of the operator in the realization of the anomalous phenomena. If we are confronted with psychophysical interactions or – more general – with correlations in separate informational systems – then we should be able to compare our own results with those of researchers in “consciousness and
reality”. Three important statements of the PEAR-Group (Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research) seem to confirm our experiences.
The existence of operator-dependent signatures in weak-psycho kinesis experiments and the comparison of their results with different systems suggests that individual faculties are the primary variables in the experiments, whereas the special type of the technical device is less
important. That agrees with our experiences: low level results are obtained by practically everybody with enough motivation and patience, whereas peak results like high quality direct voices or clear images on TV-screens are achieved by operators who are specially gifted – say strongly psychic – and/or those who started like everybody else in the field but did not play
around but took pains through many hours, weeks and months to improve their results by trying again and again.
In the quantum metaphor established by Jahn and Dunne the informational interaction between operator and machine (or between humans) is understood as a complex “tuning” process and resonance of the consciousness- and matter-wave-functions in which a great number of psychological and technical degrees of freedom are involved. In our field we like to say that the operator should be “married” to his device, and we have information stating that the sensitivity of the device for extraordinary phenomena may even be raised permanently by psychic influence.
PEAR stated that an analytical state of consciousness of the operator seems to reduce or inhibit his faculties. Preference is on the meditative side. Observation of excellent EVP operators in action suggests that they bring themselves into the Alpha-brain-wave-state – or change over to even lower frequencies.
There is a striking example in which a German operator succeeded in blocking the audio-output to an FM-radio receiver. A few minutes before the morning news he was seated nearly motionless sideways of the receiver. He concentrated and told the receiver to reduce the volume to zero. After this had happened he took a deep breath and uttered “I knew I could do it” and then addressed the receiver: “Now you can grow louder and louder” and it
obeyed like a nice dog.     SL14     SL15
In my analysis of anomalous audio-and video-recordings I had to reduce a vast complex of irregular or extraordinary phenomena which have been documented during the last decades and I barely touched the contents of the voices and images, but with respect to our session on “Topics in Survival Research” it seems appropriate to declare that thousands of these voices in a dozen countries under ever changing conditions through 4 decades repeat that they, the so-called dead, are pretty alive outside our space time-system the irrefutable fact that so-called drop-in communicators supply correct data unknown to the living operator demands a reasonable explanation of the strange selectivity of the information gained by the operator if he should be the only active part.
Anybody here or elsewhere can take all this for granted and draw her or his personal and/or scientific conclusions. He can reject even the possibility of paranormal effects and he may question the existence of life after death. All this is not at all paranormal but quite normal. Please remember my first table: the output depends not only on the incoming signal but essentially on the internal structure of the receiver and – it must be added – his faculties of adaptation.      SL16
In the meantime we have a perfect right to ponder on all sorts of anomalies and their scientific and human significance and their eventual future development including paranormal voices and images. It might be necessary to once more ask the old question ‘How have we come to know what we believe we know about the world?’, and try to answer it in the frame of a new epistemology,  as for instance that proposed by Willis Harman and his co-workers from the Institute of Noetic Sciences.
Let me close with one last example.  In the morning of October 13th 1994 Adolf Homes felt “drawn” to his equipment. He set the TV to a free channel, turned it on and pointed his
camcorder onto the screen. In the very moment of switching to record the face of a man appeared on the screen and remained still for 24 seconds. It was correctly video-taped and apparently showed the pioneer of EVP, Friedrich Jürgenson. SL 17

The date shown by the camcorder is not correct.
I am not telling you that the picture shows Mr. Jürgenson in his “heavenly” state. Instead I am convinced that it was a projection from No-where into Now-where through a chain of transformations before finally appearing on the TV-screen as the final link.  But whatever the significance, we should not forget that analysis must not be the last word in our research. Synthesis and integration seem more important in the long run.

*this lecture was first presented to the “Society For Scientific Exploration” USA – June 1995   (Sorry but I have not the Tables mentioned in the paper, Anabela Cardoso)




Professor Ernst Senkowski lecture on ITC at the SSE


                    Professor David Fontana 

 One of the very many intriguing questions asked about ITC is why do some people obtain successful results, while others fail to do so?  My initial answer to this question was that those who are successful must have mediumistic abilities that are utilised in some way by the communicators, while those who are unsuccessful lack such gifts.  Just as in other areas of human behaviour, mediumistic abilities vary from individual to individual, and it seemed reasonable to suppose that unless one possessed such abilities ITC contacts are unlikely to occur.  So interested was I in this question that I asked Anabela Cardoso to discuss the matter with her communicators from Rio do Tempo during one of her Direct Radio Voice (DRV) sessions, and when she did so I was surprised to learn that they replied that mediumship is in fact not necessary (Jurgenson and Raudive obtained similar statements from their communicators).  It is not clear if the communicators were here referring to the undeveloped latent abilities we are all said to possess or only to the developed abilities of the practising medium, but nevertheless the general meaning is clear, and when Anabela asked her communicators who or what determines whether an investigator is successful or not, the answer was that it is the communicators themselves who decide.

These replies raise further interesting questions that are worth looking
at in turn, taking the issue of mediumship first.  Is it possible that
Anabela’s communicators were wrong in their insistence that mediumship is not involved in ITC?  This seems unlikely.  At face value, the communicators themselves should be best placed to know what part, if any, mediumship plays in the receipt of their communications.  But one way of putting this to the test would be to ascertain whether or not mediums make successful ITC investigators.  To date, I know of few mediums who have attempted to work with ITC, but on the strength of the limited evidence available to me I am bound to conclude that they do not.  This could of
course be because, already convinced that they are in touch with the
deceased through mediumistic channels, they are not motivated to invest
sufficient time and effort into ITC research, but for the present it is safer to assume that mediumship is not a significant factor in obtaining good ITC results.  In support of this assumption, it must be admitted that it is in fact rather difficult to see how mediumship could be a factor.  Mental mediumship involves allowing the mind to act as a channel for discarnate communications, and we have no explanation as to how this mental channelling could facilitate the electronic effects witnessed in ITC.  It could be objected that although mental mediumship is not involved, physical mediumship might be.  In physical mediumship discarnates supposedly use ectoplasm extruded from the medium’s body to manipulate material objects, and it is possible that ectoplasm (or whatever other energies are involved) could somehow be used to influence radio waves.  Against this argument is the fact that physical mediumship is a very rare gift indeed, and we can hardly suppose that the relatively large numbers of people who reliably report successful ITC results are unknowingly acting as physical mediums.  Furthermore, physical mediums almost always have to be in deep trance before phenomena occur.  By contrast, no ITC investigator is to my knowledge  entranced during their research.

The process of communications through ITC would thus seem fundamentally different from that of mediumship, and ITC communicators have in fact insisted that one of the advantages of ITC is that communications are not contaminated in any way by the intermediation of the human mind, as may happen during mediumship.  However, if mediumship is not involved, could the human mind nevertheless play a part in ITC – possibly even be solely responsible for it – through the unconscious use of psycho-kinetic (or PK) ability – the ability of the mind to influence directly the behaviour of material objects?   This possibility may appeal to some, but the PK effect is at best very weak, and we have no experimental evidence (or theoretical model) to explain how ITC communicators could utilise this minimal ability in order to produce the lengthy and coherent communications received by investigators such as Marcelo Bacci, Hans Otto König, Maggy and Jules Harsch-Fischbach, and Anabela Cardoso.  In addition, people who can demonstrate PK effects with reasonable consistency under carefully controlled laboratory conditions are as rare as good physical mediums, and as with physical mediumship it seems unlikely in the extreme that all those who have obtained successful ITC results since Jurgenson back in the 1950s are all the unknowing possesers of powerful psycho-kinetic abilities.

If mediumship and PK appear not to enter the picture, this takes us to the
second point insisted upon by Anabela’s communicators, namely that it is
they who determine which of us will obtain successful communications.  If
this insistence is correct, we are bound to ask why should some of us be
chosen for success rather than others?  And is there anything we can do to
help ourselves to be among those chosen?  One possible answer is that those who have a real need to obtain communications, either because of
bereavement or some deep-seated desire to answer the fundamental questions of life and death, are the ones who achieve selection, but there are many others.  If we are able in the future to reach a point in the development of ITC where a sufficient number of individuals are all obtaining successful results under controlled conditions, we could use interviews and questionnaires to find out if they display common characteristics that may commend them to the communicators.  For example are women more successful than men or vice versa?  Does age appear to be a factor, with older people perhaps obtaining better results than younger?  Are there social factors involved, such as marital status?  Does religious or spiritual belief play a part?  Are personality factors involved, with introverts obtaining better results than extraverts, or extraverts proving more successful than introverts?  Does a prior belief in the reality of survival predispose people to obtain good results?  Do spiritual or religious affiliations play a part?  In other words, we could attempt to find out if there are common factors among the pool that appear to mark them out for selection by communicators.

Until such a pool comes into existence, or until we can persuade
communicators themselves to tell us what criteria they use in choosing
people with whom to work, we are left to answer these questions only with
informed guesses based upon research in other areas of psychical research.
For example some years ago research by leading British psychologist
Professor Hans Eysenck indicated that extraverts performed significantly
better on tests of telepathy and clairvoyance than introverts (which rather
surprised me at the time, as I had supposed results would point in the
opposite direction).  Other research suggests that women do slightly better
on telepathy tests than men, and that on certain tests children may
out-perform adults.  People who believe in the possibility of paranormal
abilities consistently outperform those who do not believe (the so-called
‘sheep-goats’ effect, first identified by Gertrude Schmeidler), and in
recent tests at the University of Gothenberg by Professor Adrian Parker in Sweden people following New Age practices and philosophies performed better on tests for psychic abilities (as did artists and musicians) than those who simply believed in the paranormal but without direct experience.
However, whether these findings help us predict who will obtain successful
ITC results or not is unclear.  Possibly, just as ITC differs in other ways
from other psychic experiences, it may also differ in this respect.  Let us
hope that as more and more information about ITC becomes available to us we may be able to come up with some definitive answers.

In the meanwhile we can speculate on what other personal qualities in
investigators may commend them to communicators. From discussions with Anabela Cardoso, it seems clear to me that the following may be among them.

1.  An open mind – that is, the willingness to accept that the world
is a very mysterious place, that our science has not provided
answers to this mystery, and that life itself is the biggest mystery of all.

We know that in all other areas of the so-called paranormal,
rigid scepticism and a determinedly closed mind, has a strongly
inhibiting effect upon results.  And if communicators are able
to make contact through ITC, why should they waste whatever
passes in their world for time upon people who are determined
not to believe in the possibility of an afterlife?

  1.  A sense of commitment.   Similarly, why should communicators
    waste  whatever passes for time in their world upon investigators
    who cannot be bothered to set aside a regular time and place
    in which to try to receive ITC contacts?
  2.  The right frame of mind.  Just as scepticism may not commend
    itself to communicators, so may not a mind so busy with other
    concerns that it pays scant attention during ITC sessions,
    asks half-hearted and thoughtless questions, and (if using EVP)
    spends little time listening to tapes on playback in order to
    catch the first subtle, half-heard contacts.
  3.  Courage.  Communications received by Anabela and otherssuggest that communicators are anxious not merely to
    demonstrate their personal survival, but survival as a
    universal principle.  Thus they are likely to wish to work
    with people who have the courage to publish their results,
    whatever the cost to their professional and personal lives,
    or who at the very least demonstrate their readiness to
    allow others to publish these results and who do not seek
  4.  A critical mind.  It is all too easy to be deceived into
    thinking one is obtaining communications when in
    reality there is nothing there.  We know from experiments
    in the psychology laboratory that people claim to ‘hear’
    voices when listening to white noise if told that voices
    are present.  If the white noise is provided by tuning
    a radio between two stations, there is the added risk of
    misinterpreting faint radio transmissions as spirit voices.
    A very great deal of damage is done to the credibility of
    ITC research if claims are made to be receiving communica-
    tions when it is all too readily apparent that nothing is
  5. A readiness to learn.  If questions and answers are possible
    using DRV it is possible that information will be given at
    variance with one’s existing belief systems.  This should not
    simply be taken on trust of course, but if one already has
    confidence in communicators, then it may be that existing
    belief systems will need to be changed or modified.

    I am sure that the Editor of the ITC Journal, Dr. Anabela Cardoso, would be
    interested in publishing letters from successful investigators in which
    they give us their thoughts on the reasons behind their success.


ITC: Why Are Some Investigators More Successful than Others?


by Michael Tymn
“The electronic voices received through ITC tell us that they originate ‘in another dimension beyond time, a world where the dead also live’,” Dr. Anabela Cardoso states in the Introduction of her latest book, Electronic Contact with the Dead: What do the Voices tell us? “My own contacts have been with voices that, overall, assert that they belong to the deceased … [they] have repeated time and again that they ‘are the dead speaking from another world’.”
Until I read Cardoso’s 2010 book, Electronic Voices: Contact with Another Dimension? I wasn’t overly impressed with the evidence for ITC (Instrumental Transcommunication), EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena) or DRV (Direct Radio Voices). In previously exploring the subject, all I had heard were some muffled or garbled “words” that required some imagination, sort of like looking for faces or figures in the clouds. However, Cardoso’s book offered much more than a few words here and there. There was actual dialogue taking place in her experiments, some involving philosophical discussions. Her latest book adds to the evidence (See review of the book on page 13).
Dr. Cardoso, who speaks five languages, is a highly-respected diplomat, having served as Consul-General for Portugal in a number of countries, including the United States, Spain and France, and as Portuguese Chargé d’Affaires in Japan and India. She is the founder and editor of the ITC Journal, which is published in English. I recently put some questions to her by e-mail.
Dr. Cardoso, what prompted your interest in this whole area of electronic voices and survival?
Two things – firstly, an enormous curiosity about life and death; secondly, grief – mine and the deep grief and despair of the friend who started experimenting with me. She had tried to commit suicide twice.

Would you mind briefly defining ITC, EVP, and DRV and explain how they differ? There seems to be much overlap and confusion as to how they are used.
ITC is a broad term that encompasses the whole range of electronic communications – computer texts, video images (also called transimages), fax communications, telephone calls, anomalous electronic voices and other electronically mediated contacts. In the scope of the voices it is normally used in relation to the DRV. The DRV emanate directly from the loudspeaker of a radio and allow for dialogues when we are able to understand what the voices say immediately. EVP are the voices that we cannot hear directly but become audible when we rewind the recording. They are normally much shorter and clearer but, naturally, do not allow for a dialogue because we cannot hear them directly.
The term Instrumental Transcommunication (ITC) was coined by Dr. Ernst Senkowski, professor of physics at the Technical University of Mainz, Germany in the 1980s when other types of electronic messages, namely images, computer and fax messages, started coming through. Until then and on account of Dr. Konstantin Raudive’s book, Breakthrough, the anomalous electronic voices were called Electronic Voice Phenomenon (EVP) or “Raudive voices.” Raudive’s book caused furore in Great Britain when it was published by Colin Smythe in 1971, and thousands of people started experimenting with the new method he described, apparently obtaining results; therefore, the term “Raudive voices.” But it was Friedrich Jürgenson, the Swedish painter and singer, who in reality pioneered the existence of these mysterious voices. Dr. Raudive got the information and methods to experiment from Jürgenson himself. Later, in their book, Phone Calls from the Dead, parapsychologists Scott Rogo and Raymond Bayless published the results of their investigations of still another type of ITC messages, the anomalous telephone calls. From then on, reports of anomalous messages transmitted via electronic means upsurged all over the world. Some results are truly exceptional, as is the case of Maggy and Jules Harsch-Fischbach in Luxembourg, of Adolf Homes in Germany and Marcello Bacci in Italy, while other reports publicized mostly through the Internet, are imprecise and even doubtful.
What do you say to skeptics who say that electronic
voices are no more than wishful thinking turning a
bunch of static into voices?
I say, of course, that they have never witnessed,
nor heard, and even less studied, any real anomalous
electronic voices. Furthermore, I say that they know
nothing about the literature. There are over one hundred
volumes published on this subject. They
should study them first and look at the evidence.
In your 2010 book, you mention a DRV
communication of over 2 1/2 hours, but you state
that most of it could not be understood. How much
could be understood and what exactly is the problem
in that regard?
The contact remained open for all that time but
not the voice speaking with me. Although very long,
it did not speak all that time. I have never heard of
an electronic voice speaking for such a long period
of time! The voices do not speak uninterruptedly.
They speak, stop for a while, speak again, in the
best-cases come back repeatedly, but they never
speak for such a long time.
Little could be understood of my September
1998 DRV. The voice was so loud that I had to lower
the microphone entry to a level much under the
normal microphone entry otherwise it would be
damaging to the ear. But it sounded as if spoken from
the inside of a metal box with the corresponding
deformation, and it was also truncated. It was as
if speech bits were missing. It was also very fast
(a common characteristic) and seemed glued all
together. I understood “[Rio do] Tempo” spoken in
a lower tone and by another voice, “Anabela”…”This
is what you asked for yesterday”…“It’s very difficult,
difficult”… “It’s for Cristina Arruda”…“It’s the
father, satisfaction” and other things that I cannot
recall. At the time I had a Brazilian researcher
staying with me; she had come purposely to watch
my experiments. Indeed, the day before I had asked
Carlos de Almeida (my main communicator at
the time) if they could speak for her the next day.
Interestingly, in most cases, the louder the DRV the
less understandable they are.
I remember that I cried and cried because
of not being able to understand the replies that
extraordinary masculine voice gave to my many
questions on some transcendental issues that interest
me deeply. I took the tapes to a specialized audio
shop and the sound technicians there could not
understand it, either. They said pieces of speech
were missing. I recall an anomalous computer text
conveyed via Adolf Homes, which stated that the
voices were transmitted from the next dimension in
packets of energy and that only around 40 percent
of the information sent by them reached our world
(I cannot be sure of the exact percentage but it was
in this order). Maybe this is what happened. I just
don’t know.
Are any of the messages so clear and distinct that
there is absolutely no question about them?
Some of the voices in the CD I published with
my first book are fully intelligible. Naturally, as
should be expected, the only condition is to be fluent
in the idiom.
What has been most evidential to you?
Perhaps the fact that the voices identified
themselves as the dead, in some cases with their
own names and called me by my own name and
my family pet name, “Bela,” and replied directly to
my questions. Also that Rio do Tempo identification
was clearly provided on many occasions. “We
speak from Rio do Tempo Station…”. “Zeitstrom”
(Timestream) was the name of the group (station)
that spoke both with the Harsch-Fischbach in Luxembourg
and Adolf Homes in Germany. Years ago,
before me, Carlos de Almeida had spoken clearly in
Portuguese with the Luxembourg operators identifying
the name of his group in “Zeitstrom Station”
as “Rio do Tempo” and telling his own name. His
message was addressed to a conference in Brazil
where Harsch-Fischbach were going to present their
You refer to group souls in your books. What exactly
are they as you understand them?
My communicators have spoken many times
about “our group” and have also explicitly said
“I go down to my group, I go to the soul,” as you
might have heard in my CD. Apart from the mention
of their group, they have told me, “You belong
to Rio do Tempo [the group],” and other remarks
I heard them say to each other which implied the
collaboration of less-expected beings such as, fish
and other animals, besides my own dogs that, obviously,
we would expect to be part of the group. They
mentioned the most varied beings in the context of
playing a part in their projects to accomplish the
communications with us. Consequently, my own
interpretation of the group-soul is very close to the
description Frederic Myers purportedly made of that
unit in The Road to Immortality through the automatic
writing of Geraldine Cummins. A huge group that
comprises minerals, plants, animals, humans, united
by affinities, interests, goals and, of course, love.
I suppose this group extends beyond our present
existence and could relate to many other unknown
Why isn’t it possible to get a number of distinguished
scientists to observe an ITC session with you and
for them to all agree that it is genuine?
I believe you mean orthodox scientists and
that is practically an impossibility because they
are not interested. Unorthodox scientists have
been present in some of my experiments. Professor
Uwe Hartmann and Professor Ernst Senkowski
from Germany, Professor David Fontana from the
UK, and Dr. Adrian Klein from Israel, were in my
house on innumerable occasions and took part in
many dozen experiments. They all agreed to the
genuineness of the voices I receive and published
about them. David Fontana spoke extensively of
my ITC experiments in his books, and Professor
Uwe Hartmann also published about them, took
measurements, etc. However, they were not
orthodox scientists and understood that the voices
do not happen on command; therefore, they stayed
at my house for rather lengthy periods of time. I
don’t know if or when the voices will occur, thus
I cannot say in advance if a session will yield
positive results. We have to wait and see. I very
much doubt that an orthodox scientist, particularly
a high level one, would stay at my house for a full
month, for instance, to see if the voices manifest!
And even if he did, they might not happen in that
period. Then what? But if you know of anyone
who is in that disposition, please recommend
them to come. However, let me clarify that to fully
validate the anomalous electronic voices, we need
a specialized scientist, not any scientist. We need an
electromagnetic physicist or engineer. Interestingly,
I met one of those in 1998 at the beginning of my
experiments. I will tell you briefly what happened.
When I started receiving the DRV, voices
happened at my house practically on a daily basis.
I and my colleagues were amazed and wanted all
possible confirmation of the anomalous quality of the
voices. The University of Vigo, where I live, is well
known for its engineering and telecommunications
faculty. I sent a pair of tapes (I used an analogue
recorder then as I still do today) to the acoustic
experts of the faculty to be analysed. They did not
know me and I did not know them. Not a clue about
the provenance of the voices on the tapes was given.
The whole thing was channelled through my office
at the Consulate General of Portugal. A few weeks
later, the experts came back to the officer who had
made the contact, and told him they were extremely
surprised because the tapes contained voices which
were not modulated in a usual way. They insisted
in finding out how the voices had been obtained
but the Consulate officer did not know; thus, he
conveyed their message to me and, a few days later,
I decided to invite these two academics for lunch
at my house. Their research area was (is) Theory of
the Signal and Communications and this is exactly the
area credentialed to evaluate the characteristics of
any recording. One of these academics is currently a
full professor at the same faculty of Vigo University.
When they came for lunch they still did not know
what the voices were. With great difficulty, I told
them about the likely provenance of the recorded
voices and immediately their faces showed such
stupefaction that I could not hold laughing! As a
matter of fact the situation was out of the ordinary,
to say the least – a high ranking diplomat telling
two orthodox scientists in a highly conservative
country that does not accept any discussion of these
issues, that she had recorded the voices of the dead!
Moreover, they had never heard of EVP. What an
embarrassing situation!
To make a long story short – I informed them
that my communicators had told me they would
endeavour to speak at 8 p.m. of that same day, so
they should wait and see for themselves. But some
half an hour before the time, they suddenly got up,
apologized and said they had to leave immediately.
I insisted to no avail. Rio do Tempo did speak that
evening at 8 p.m. What a missed opportunity! It was
a real shame because to reliably assess the electronic
voices we need scientists of the pertinent field, i.e.,
physicists working in Theory of the Signal. This was
my first encounter with orthodox scientists in the
scope of the electronic voices. Later, I contacted a
few others but the moment I revealed my opinion
about the origin of the voices, they ended all contact
with me.
Another good example is the report on the
highly controlled experiments carried out for a
period of two years I published in NeuroQuantology
– “A Two-Year Investigation of the Allegedly
Anomalous Electronic Voices or EVP” (Cardoso,
2012, 2017). It announced that samples of the voices
would be sent to interested scientists and technicians.
Nobody applied for this free demonstration.
What do you see as the future for ITC?
ITC, the new method to attempt contact with
the next dimension of life announced by mediums
in different points of the globe at the beginning of
the last century (Cardoso, 2010), will play a still
more significant role in the future. If we ponder the
manifestations seemingly produced by those we call
the dead throughout human history, we easily verify
that their recurrent feature is to be in conformity with
the [human] epoch of their emergence. This attribute
is even more visible in ITC with its technological
connections, apart from the fact that the determinant
element is electricity, which is supposed to be a very
manageable energy for our communicators. Thus,
in my opinion ITC will develop hand-in-hand with
the new technologies that humans will devise in the
future. We just have to wait and see!

Interview with Mike Tymn in The Searchlight


It is my pleasure to publish below a valuable article written for the ITC Journal years ago by the late Professor David Fontana. Its pertinence and wisdom are certainly valid today  as much as they were when he wrote it.



Professor David Fontana, Ph.D., FBPsS
Past President Society for Psychical Research

I very much sympathise with Nils Jacobson (ITC Journal March 2000) when he  writes of the difficulties of convincing scientific colleagues of the reality of ITC, and I would like to add my own thoughts to the points that he raises.
It is now 36 years since the publication of Friedrich Jürgenson’s ‘Voices From Space’ (‘Rösterna Från Rymden’), and 32 years since Raudive published the original German version of ‘Breakthrough’ (‘Unhörbares Wird Hörbar) drawing the attention of the world to ITC (or to EVP as it was then called). During that time we have had an extraordinary range of published and unpublished ITC material allegedly produced paranormally through modern technological media (in particular through tape recorders, video players, radios and telephones), while only one serious research-based book of any particular note has appeared in English querying the validity of the phenomena (Ellis 1978). The conclusions reached by Ellis were that the voices he heard on tape under carefully controlled conditions were in all likelihood due to normal rather than paranormal causes, citing in  particular stray radio frequencies picked up either by the microphone cable acting as an aerial (and originating from local short-wave radios such as those used by the police), or from the air waves (from national networks).
Wish-fulfilling interpretations of what these very indistinct voices were actually saying did the rest.
However, Ellis carried out the great majority of his experimental work with  Raudive, and language differences (the messages that came through during the experiments were primarily in Latvian, German and Russian) posed unavoidable problems. Although Ellis conducted extensive interviews with other researchers, and had the opportunity to listen to some of their recordings, his main concern was to obtain positive results under fully controlled conditions. The fact that he failed to do so proved a cause of disappointment for him, and led to his largely unfavourable conclusions.
David Ellis’ book was not a best-seller, but in view of his credentials as a serious researcher (his investigation into ITC was funded by the prestigious Perrott-Warrick Bequest, administered by Trinity College, University of Cambridge) and his generally supportive attitude towards paranormal phenomena (he was and still is an active member of the Society for Psychical Research, and Production Editor of the Society’s journal), his results were widely respected by fellow scientists, and can be said to have had a major influence upon scientific attitudes towards the validity of ITC, providing us with one of the main reasons why the phenomena are  still not taken seriously even by the majority of parapsychologists, much to the disappointment of the large groups of workers in Europe and America who consider that they are producing ever more impressive results.
I can understand this disappointment. I have been given (and been shown) many good examples of ITC by researchers, and in the Scole investigations undertaken by Montague Keen, Professor Arthur Ellison and myself (Keen, Ellison and Fontana 2000) we were ourselves present when remarkable results were obtained under good control conditions using a tape recorder from which the microphone had been removed (and in the absence of any white noise or other sound input). Space does not allow me to go into details, but among the most noteworthy features of these results were firstly that in addition to the sounds registering on the tape we actually heard them loudly and clearly while they were being received, and secondly that they included a piece of classical music which, through one of the mediums present during the experiment, we were told was being offered as a treat to Monty Keen (it transpired that the piece concerned had deep emotional  associations for him from his childhood days, a fact known only to himself). Attempts to explain these results by normal means has so far proved unsuccessful. And just as Ellis (ibid 1978) assures us that he did not doubt Raudive’s integrity, so my two fellow researchers and myself had no cause to doubt the integrity of the group producing these results at any time during the two years of our investigations with them.
Thus I fully appreciate the frustrations felt by those who have been reporting their own results for many years, but who still feel themselves to be ignored not only by orthodox science but by much of the parapsychological community. However, science proceeds by the scientific method, a method which has proved very successful in dealing with the material world. And as ITC involves material phenomena, it is perfectly reasonable (if very annoying) that scientists should demand that ITC phenomena be demonstrable under the tightly controlled conditions which form an essential part of this method. It therefore may be helpful if, as a scientist, I outlined some ways in which ITC research could yield results  that will go some way towards satisfying the scientific community. I fully realise that others have already sought to list these ways elsewhere, and that many workers consider they have already produced reliable results under the conditions involved, but nevertheless it is worth re-emphasising what these conditions are.
Some of the Conditions Necessary to Satisfy Scientists

  1. To avoid the possibility of audio-visual equipment picking up stray fragments of short-wave or radio broadcasts, the equipment needs to be placed within a screened enclosure (a Faraday cage). This I know is a contentious requirement. When the messages received contain information directly related to previous questions placed upon the tape by researchers, or when they contain names or other details relating to the researchers, the stray radio signals explanation is difficult or even impossible to sustain. Nevertheless, critics will always look for a loophole, however small, in any psychical research experiment, and having found it will gratefully worm their way through it, destroying in the process the credibility of the results which they are criticising. The use of screened equipment closes off one such loophole.
    2. To minimise the possibility of uncontrolled sounds from the researchers or from the environment appearing on the tapes and being misinterpreted as paranormal, the microphone can be removed from the equipment. As indicated above, this was the policy adopted at the Scole investigation. Under certain circumstances it is still possible for a machine without a microphone to pick up stray sounds, but the likelihood is relatively small, particularly in the case of lengthy and coherent recordings.
    3. To lessen the possibility of subjective misinterpretation of the taped material, and to provide further evidence suggestive of survival, more attempts should be made to obtain information from supposedly deceased communicators known only to the communicators themselves. Names, dates, reference to events etc. all support claims for identity by communicators. Sceptics may still put such communications down to SuperESP (the alleged ability for some mediums to receive information from the minds of sitters or from the environment, while supposing it comes from discarnate sources), the last refuge of those determined to argue against the possibility of survival, but the SuperESP argument depends upon the presence of a medium, and unless we claim mediumship on the part of the investigators it seems untenable in the case of ITC – unless of course we advance the absurd suggestions that the audio or video recorder has itself psychic abilities.
    4. To obviate charges of fraud, results need to be obtained in the presence of  sceptical scientists who can verify that all the necessary controls are in place. It’s possible that the presence of sceptical scientists might inhibit communication, as can happen during demonstrations of mediumship. But as the presence of mediums during ITC sessions does not appear to be essential, it is hard to see how inhibition by sceptics could operate.
    5. To combat the demands of the scientist for repeatability (every scientific experiment is expected – in theory at least! – to produce identical results provided that the conditions under which it is carried out are the same), ITC researchers at least need to be able to specify under what conditions results can and cannot be obtained, and then to demonstrate that these specifications are correct.

Clarity in the Messages Themselves
It hardly needs saying that greater clarity in the messages received would be especially welcomed. Few scientists to my knowledge are prepared to take the (not particularly onerous) trouble to train their ears to hear the cadences which characterise much ITC speech. It may be that achieving this clarity is as much a matter for the communicators as for researchers.
However, judging by the results now being obtained on computers (and our own results at Scole, where a specially constructed germanium device was used to pick up the signals, as explained in Keen, Ellison and Fontana, ibid 2000) it seems perfectly possible to obtain a high degree of clarity, at least under certain circumstances, and to dialogue as Meek did with the help of his Spiricom (e.g. Fuller 1987), to receive lengthy, highly coherent messages (e.g. Webster 1989), and to obtain the highly evidential findings reported by Maggie Harsch-Fischbach and her co-workers.
There is of course another point of view on ITC phenomena, namely that as the researchers achieving good results are in no doubt of the authenticity of these results, there is little point in their spending the time and energy needed to convince sceptical scientists. I am in sympathy with this point of view. It is in any case quite wrong to believe that science is the correct measure of all things. The great majority of the things that make our lives of value – from emotions such as love and empathy on the one hand to music, poetry, sculpture and the fine arts on the other – are not susceptible to scientific investigation or explanation. It may well be that ITC, like other psychic phenomena, depends on processes that lie outside the domain of the physical sciences. However, if the breathtaking implications of ITC for our understanding of ourselves, of survival of death, and of the interaction between mind and matter are to be fully realised and generally accepted, then at the very least it is necessary that science is enabled to accept the reality of the phenomena. Like it or not, the Western world is very much in the thrall of scientists, who are often accorded almost mystical reverence. Unless science agrees that something is worth investigating, the chances of it gaining the attention it deserves – and of those studying it obtaining the funding and the resources that they need – are small.
Initiatives such as that of Anabela Cardoso in founding the ITC Journal (to say nothing of the commitment of time and money she puts into producing it) are of enormous value in moving the subject forward, and in providing the forum in which ideas and research findings can be discussed. We are all enormously in her debt.
Ellis, D. (1978) The Mediumship of the Tape Recorder. Pulborough, W. Sussex:
Ellis Publications
Fuller, J. G. (1987) The Ghost of 29 Megacycles. London: Grafton

Keen, M., Ellison, A., and Fontana, D. (2000). The Scole Report.
Proceedings of the Society for Psychical Research 58, 220 (whole issue).
Webster, K. (1989). The Vertical Plane. London: Grafton.



Doctor Anabela Cardoso and Professor David Fontana

1 – Professor Senkowski, you are one of the pioneers of work in the field of Instrumental Transcommunication, and you actually invented the term. What first aroused your interest in the subject?

In 1974 I accidentally saw a German TV discussion between Friedrich Jürgenson – the pioneer of EVP – the parapsychologist Prof. Hans Bender and some other scientists and journalists. Jürgenson stated his conviction that he observed extraordinary voices on magnetic tapes seemingly generated by so-called dead persons. I got the impression that Jürgenson was not treated correctly and as a sceptical physicist I decided to control his observations by own experiments.

2 – What convinced you that the results are paranormal?

I started my first experiments without detailed background knowledge. The immediate results showed that Jürgenson’s assertions were true: I found understandable voices telling: ‘We are the dead’ and ‘The dead are thinking and speaking’. The characteristics were clearly paranormal.

3 – Can you tell us something of your own experiences please?

From the beginning I recorded mixed short-wave radio transmissions with a reel-to-reel machine, asking the unnamed ‘friends in the beyond’ to answer. In many cases they reacted immediately and referred to me and my surroundings.

4 – Who do you believe the communicators to be?

In official materialistic science there is no way to ‘prove’ the identity of those who apparently create the extraordinary voices. If the general idea of conscious life after death is accepted I see no reason to reject the basic validity of these communications, that is, most communicators are indeed deceased humans and possibly some “exotic” non-human entities.

5 – As a physicist, have you any theory as to how spirit communicators can influence electronic equipment such as tape recorders and radios?

A possible hypothesis consists of a simple ‘two-step’-model using parapsychological terms: A being from beyond could telepathically influence the mind of the terrestrial operator who for his part unconsciously injects the information into an electronic device by psychokinetic faculties. Probably we are not justified to treat the process in this analytic way, it is more likely to use a holistic model in which the – at least three – components cannot be separated. By logic, direct influencing of our apparatus from beyond cannot be excluded.

6 – What method of ITC do you consider to be the most successful?

The answer depends on the definition of the term “successful”. If we look for the number we may say it’s the voices on tapes, which regrettably are often of bad quality. Few cases of direct voices and especially some paranormal computer texts have shown that nearly faultless dialogues are possible.

7 – Have you any examples in your files of communicators who have given details of their lives on earth that have clearly established their identities?

In my own experience as well as in that of other experimenters, the entities tried their best to establish their identity. For instance the German operator Adolf Homes received a group of details from the late Prof. Bender’s lifetime which Homes did not know. They were afterwards found to be correct in Bender’s biography.

8 – Why do you think that your fellow scientists are still so sceptical of the paranormal, and particularly of ITC?

The official scientific community is based on materialistic paradigms which have been established through several centuries. The technical applications seem to work efficiently. Any questioning of the fundamental notions has always be rejected by the establishment during the history of science. Moreover science is a complex of human activities and many personal fears must be considered.

9 – Can anyone obtain ITC results, given the appropriate effort and commitment ? What would be your advice to beginners?

It seems that at least the voices on tapes can be realized by anyone with sufficient perseverance. The results depend upon sort of psychic ability or mediumistic faculty of the operator which to a varying extent are inherent in any individual. A beginner should work periodically not putting himself under stress, he should instead switch to a meditative state of mind. He should not become addictive and always keep his own decisions. I strongly recommend to be very careful in the interpretation of voices that are heavily distorted, disturbed or covered by noise.

10 – Do you think that the receiver’s own psychic abilities play some part in successful results?

Yes, this has been already expressed above.

11 – Anabela Cardoso’s communicators say they are from Timestream Station. Have you any direct experience of this group ?

No. My experience was only with the couple Harsch-Fischbach in Luxemburg during the 80’s of last century.

12 – What have your learned from the communicators?

As a physicist I was lead to accept the existence of extraordinary psychophysical interactions finally resulting in my interest in consciousness research. As a human with Roman Catholic upbringing I developed a spiritualistic perspective of life independent of dogmatic religion.

13 – How important is ITC when compared to other methods of spirit communication such as mediumship?

At present ITC is clearly inferior to mediumistic communications. This is mainly due to the amount of material. Nevertheless a short ITC-passage as a direct personal experience of somebody who lost his beloved may reduce grief and strongly ease the further life of the bereaved. I reject the idea that the contents and forms of ITC are more valid or “proof” than good mediumistic utterances.

14 – What do you consider to be the future of ITC?

Since the first paranormal voices have been observed in 1952 in Italy, half a century has passed and apart from a very limited number of excellent results I am unable to see much progress if not a spread-out to many countries. It has been shown that ICT in good quality is indeed possible, but so far there is no sufficient knowledge to develop special means and methods for a reliable communication. I suppose that a possible future evolution preferably depends on the development of conscious psychophysical interactions. This might be a very slow process including a change in our human and spiritual attitudes.

Thank you dear Professor Senkowski for sharing with the readers of the ITC Journal your wise opinions and your remarkable experience in the field of ITC research.

Interview with Professor Ernst Senkowski


The Luxembourg communications represent a milestone in the history of Instrumental Transcommunication. But they have been denied, vilified as fraud and, above all, ignored.

However, the evidence obtained by Maggy and Jules Harsch-Fischbach about survival of physical death is of such importance and magnitude in the field of survival research that misinformed or ill-intentioned parapsychologists, as well as other jealous ITC operators, could not resist accusing them of hoaxing, and on the whole, preferred to ignore their results.

But the truth is that dozens of European figures of prestige and scientific knowledge witnessed, and in some cases were the recipients of those extraordinary communications.  Another ITC operator, the German Adolf Homes, simultaneously received information of great value from the same sources as the Harsch-Fischbach and the so-called cross-correspondences were an almost daily event in Luxembourg and at Homes’ in Rivenich in those days.

I publish today with great pleasure the account by a well-known and respected Finnish writer and psychical researcher, Irma Weisen, of her visit to Maggy and Jules Harsch-Fischbach in Luxembourg, years ago.

An Unexpected Contact in Luxembourg
Irma Weisen

In an early January  evening in 1992 I found myself in Luxembourg City excitedly searching for the address ‘Residence Marie Curie, Louis Pasteur Avenue’. Some time ago I had written to Maggy and Jules Harsch-Fischbach to request an interview in connection with their ITC experiments, and had received the kind answer that I was welcome to visit them as soon as the new laboratory of the Centre d’ Etudes de Transcommunication du Luxembourg (CETL) was completed.
I was living in Luxembourg at the time, and had since 1986 been able to follow the development of the Timestream contacts made by Maggy and Jules by reading their publication, ITC Info News, and by attending conferences organized by CETL. As a result I had developed a great respect for their dedicated work.
Maggy and Jules arrived punctually at the agreed time, and we met at the staircase of the Residence Marie Curie. Maggy told me that they had just visited her parents, and that they had received there a ‘phone call from their friend at Timestream Station, Swejen Salter, in which they had been told ‘Mrs Weisen is coming tonight, and the three of you must do an experiment with Meza 1’.
Meza 1 is an arrangement of electrical devices constructed at the end of 1989 by the German engineer Martin Wenzel and the investigators Jochem Fornoff and Mr. and Mrs Diplik following instructions Maggy and Jules had received from their Timestream contact group.  An experiment had been attempted with this apparatus at the Basle Psi Days (a large international conference in Switzerland devoted to the paranormal) but without success.
In the following years a number of other experiments had been attempted with it, but also without success.
We entered the very well-equipped CETL laboratory, and I saw that the Meza 1 apparatus, with a small radio-television on top, was situated in a corner near the window.  Maggy told me that Swejen Salter had instructed her to tune the radio-television to 92 metres short wave at 18.20 hours and then to seek a space in between broadcast frequencies.  Maggy, Jules and I agreed that if we obtained no results after 10 minutes of trying to make contact, we would regard the experiment as unsuccessful.
Maggy sat down in front of the apparatus and called Swejen Salter by name. I sat about one metre away, while Jules stood with a small audio tape recorder in his hand.  After some minutes of waiting, the unexpected happened. The white noise from the radio-television ceased, and we heard a soft woman’s voice, which I understood was speaking personally to me.  I was overcome with a strong feeling that the personality of my father was present. His warmth and sentiments, remembered from childhood,  flowed over me, but I tried to gather my concentration and attend to what was being said by the woman.  She spoke beautiful, nearly faultless Finnish (my native language), and I heard her last words ‘Kiitoksia paljon’ – many thanks – very clearly.  After that the same voice spoke in German and asked ‘May I speak in German because everyone understands it?’ We all understood what she said very clearly. I speak German, but my ear was not experienced enough at listening to paranormal radio voices for me to understand the next sentence, except for ‘Vielen dank’ – many thanks- at the end.
When the transmission was over, Maggy, Jules and I compared the words we had heard. Jules said that the speaker was Swejen Salter. She had first spoken my name, ‘Irma’, followed by a word that sounded like ‘Kaari’ then a word beginning with ‘Heim’.  I informed them that ‘Kaarina’ is my second Christian name, and that my maiden (unmarried) name was ‘Heimola’.
The name ‘Kaarina’ was chosen for me by my father, and he was the only person who sometimes used it to me as a pet name. Maggy and Jules told me that when there are married women present at the experimental sittings, the spirit friends call them by their maiden names, which have  been told to the spirits by the sitter’s deceased parents. The Finnish words spoken by Swejen Salter meant ‘Thank you for the relevant article you have published.  Many thanks’. She had then repeated the same message in German.  I presumed that she was referring to the last article I had written for the Finnish ‘Ultra-Magazine’.
After Swejen Salter we also heard The Technician speak, and it was very moving to hear his metallic voice. Jules informed me that he said ‘This contact was made possible by the Finnish Information Officer, Bengt Anttonen.
In subsequent years the friends at Timestream have sent me further short messages through Maggy and Jules’ computer, including an invitation to an INIT Conference in Germany. The communicators always refer to me by both my Christian names, ‘Irma Kaarina’. When I gave some lectures on ITC in Rovaniemi, Kemi and Oulu in northern Finnland in the winter of 1997, Maggy and Jules received a computer message from Swejen Salter and Bengt Anttonen for me which said ‘Thank you for work well done’. In 2000 I was told that Bengt Anttonen had tried to contact Maggy and Jules in Swedish (the second official language in Finland).
I have also been informed that two further successful contacts were received through Meza 1 after my visit, but that subsequently no more messages have come through the apparatus.